Wednesday, December 15, 2010
Lib Dems and tuition fees
Friday, May 7, 2010
What now for electoral reform
Sunday, May 2, 2010
Who should I vote for in Wales.
Take the Who Should You Vote For? Wales quiz
| Plaid Cymru | 93 | |||
| Green | 86 | |||
| Liberal Democrat | 80 | |||
| Labour | -4 | |||
| UK Independence | -27 | |||
| Conservative | -50 |
You expected: Plaid
Your recommendation: Plaid Cymru
Monday, April 26, 2010
I think these people are missing the big picture here.
I just don't think the Britishpeople would accept that he could carry on as prime minister, which is what the convention of old politics dictates when, or rather if, he were to lose the election in such spectacular styleand the Guardian respond:
Clegg's new formula raises the problem of how Labour could replace Brown, as well as the prospect of Labour having a second prime minister who has not won a mandate at a general election.But I think that's wrong, Labour don't need to replace Brown. Clegg didn't say that he couldn't work with Brown, only that Brown can't be PM. But what if a Brown led Labour Party offered to support a Clegg Prime Ministership? Brown could be in Clegg's government, just not as PM. Labour would then have some time to elect a new leader.
Cameron accused Clegg of wanting PR "so we have a permanent hung parliament, a permanent coalition, so we never have strong and authoritative and decisive government".Which is a bit of a weird argument. He doesn't explain why it is in Clegg's interests not to have "strong decisive government", or why it is in the UKs interests to have a "strong decisive government". In my experience "strong decisive governments" often make the wrong decisions, and the rest of us are stuck with them. I'm for weak consensual multi party government that actually has a mandate myself.
It's now becoming clear he [Clegg] wants to hold the whole country to ransom, just to get what would benefit the Liberal-Democrats.Which is possibly the most hypocritical thing I have read during the election campaign. I mean why does Cameron support FPTP? It couldn't be because it benefits the Tory Party? i.e. a majority in parliament on a minority of votes. It's frankly odious when politicians try to take a high moral stance like this and don't even appear to notice the massive hypocrisy in what they say. Labour and the Tories like FPTP because it has allowed them to stich up politics, and ignore the wishes of the majority of voters for the last 65 years at least. To claim that the Lib-Dems support PR because it suits them is a statement of the bleeding obvious, but PR doesn's discriminate in favour of the Lib-Dems, it only gives their voters an equal voice to Labour and Tory voters. Clearly Cameron thinks those voters don't deserve an equal voice. Then he has the effrontery to ask progressives to vote for him? I could never vote for a party that is so elitist, and treats voters with such great contempt that they seem to think we don't understand when we are being patronized.
Sunday, April 25, 2010
UK journalists really are ignorant about ho coalitions work.
So imagine if all those left-leaning voters produced a Cameron-led government?
Saturday, April 24, 2010
Proportional Representation.
Friday, April 23, 2010
Alternative Vote (AV)
Plurality voting (FPTP) and proportionality

It is often claimed that FPTP is not a proportional system. Whereas this has been true in recent United Kingdom general elections, the plurality voting system can in fact produce proportional results. The United States House of Representatives is elected with a high degree of proportionality, but the price of this proportionality is a lack of real choice, only two political parties are represented in the US House.
The same is true of the House of Commons, during the 1950s when the Liberal Party was polling at 5% or lower, UK general elections were fairly proportional. Even in 1970 the Liberals only polled 7.5% of the vote. But there seems to have been a sea change in UK politics in 1974, with the Liberal Party polling 19.3% in the first election of that year, and 18.3% in the second.
When a third party gains a large proportion of the vote it dramatically affects the disproportionality of a plurality election. This is because the winning party's share of the vote is much reduced, reduced to well below the 50% threshold that will normally give a majority. Or to put it another way, gaining 54.8% of the seats in parliament on a 49.7% vote share (as the Conservatives did in 1955) is significantly more proportional than gaining 55.2% of the seats on a 35.3% vote share (as the Labour Party did in 2005).
Ever since the 1970s the UK electorate have voted in large numbers for the third party (varying between 15% and 22% of the vote). The electoral system is fundamentally biased against third party voters, routinely disenfranchising them. In 2005 it cost 26,860 votes to elect a Labour MP, 44,306 votes to elect a Conservative MP and a whopping 96,482 votes to elect each Liberal-Democrat MP. This means that relative to Labour 4.3 million Liberal-Democrat voters are disenfranchised (or 72%).
It's time for our electoral system to reflect fairly how people cast their votes, and to stop this discrimination against third party voters.
Wednesday, April 21, 2010
Why FPTP (plurality) system favours Labour
So what is going on? Well two things according to the ERS and CAER.
Vote Distribution
Labour has a more efficiently distributed vote. In constituencies in the south of England it is the Liberal-Democrats who are the Conservatives main threat, not the Labour Party. (e.g. see Eastbourne and Winchester). The Labour Party does not receive large numbers of votes in these constituencies. Conversely the Conservative Party and the Liberal-Democrats rack up large numbers of votes in the south in constituencies that they don't win. This is particularly true of the Liberal-Democrats. On the other hand in seats in the industrial north it is the Conservatives and Labour who are most in contention. (e.g. see Battley and Spen and Dewsbury). So the Conservatives rack up a lot of votes in the north without electoral succes, while the Labour party don't have the same problem in the south (though the Liberal-Democrats and the Tories do). Essentially the Labour vote is lumpy, it is concentrated in certain towns and cities, whereas the Conservative and Liberal-Democrat votes are thinly spread.
Turnout
According to the ERS and CAER, in 2005 turnout was a very big factor in Labour's majority. The average Conservative constituency was already about 9% bigger than the average Labour constituency. This was not enough to change the election result. But in 2005 the average turnout in Labour constituencies was 58% compared to 65% in Conservative constituences. The effective size difference between Labour and Conservative constituencies was therefore nearly 23%. 47,618 people voted in the average Conservative constituency compared to 38,739 in the average Labour constituency. Labour therefore needed a lower number of votes to win seats.
Clearly the dual problems of vote distribution and turnout cannot be addressed by David Cameron's commitment to equalizing constituency size and decreasing the number of constituencies. In fact having larger constituencies will simply mean that Liberal-Democrat votes are squeezed even more.
Full report: The Conservatives and the electoral system
Jonathan Friedland talking sense in the Guardian.
Reading Jonathan Friedland's piece "This could be a blip. But if not, British politics will be changed for ever", we finally some sense from a journalist. I'm a little bored with Guardian journalists writing that a big LD vote will make no difference to parliament or politics.
Brown and Cameron can't have it both ways. They have to accept that when the electorate give a result that is unique in recent years, then that is still a valid result.
People want a hung parliament. PR is likely on the way if the LDs get ~100 seats and hold the balance of power.
In the end it's a red herring for the Tories to say that Cameron should be PM if he gets more votes than Brown but has less seats. Cameron is in favour of FPTP, so he more than anyone should accept it's inconsistencies. If Labour get the most seats then the normal process would be for the head of state to ask him to try and form a government. In doing this he has the right to make a minority government work, or to try to negotiate a coalition with the LDs.
If he fails then normally Cameron would try to form a government, again he'd probably end up negotiating with the LDs.
But these negotiations are a give and take situation, they will not be able to demand that the LDs support their government, and give nothing in return, especially if the LDs end up with a 30% voteshare and are only a couple of points behind the Tories.
That probably means that the LDs will demand PR, and that means that the Labour or the Tories will have to negotiate that point.
It doesn't necessarily mean STV (though I'd like it). But it will mean introducing a proportional system that the LDs coalition partner can live with. I'd be happy with MMPR or open lists or STV myself.
So what if they did? We're not talking about a Tory government, we're talking about a coalition. Many on the left are fed up with Labour because of social and liberty issues, if a Lib-Con coalition can scrap ID cards, and give us our freedom back, many on the left would be happy with that, even if they don't like the coalition's economic policies.
What indeed? The Lib-Dem grass roots are in fact the most enthusiastic about PR, and PR would mean always having coalition governments. In fact PR would mean that the Lib-Dems would sometimes be in government with Labour, sometimes with the Tories and sometimes in opposition. Lib-Dems understand that because they support PR. Is that a difficult concept to understand?
You don't seem to understand how politics would work in a coalition. The Lib-Dems have already forced the Conservatives to move on PR by showing that they may well hold the balance of power. Coalition politics will always be a negotiation between parties, if there is a Lib-Con coalition then the parties will be partners, not adversaries. If a deal were made then a reform of the electoral system would be government policy. It was claimed in Wales that a referendum on increasing the powers of the NAfW was a "honey trap" by Labour to get Plaid support. But guess what, now we're going to have that referendum. The Lib-Dems must make sure that any coalition has a properly negotiated agreement before entering, like Plaid did with it's One Wales agreement. But reform of the electoral system will itself be a negotiation, the Lib-Dems want STV, but we might get something else because the Tories might have their own ideas. Whatever we get it must be much more proportional that what we now have. I think AV+ is out of the question as not proportional enough for the Lib-Dems, but the Tories might favour MMP or some such system.
It depends how much good faith there is, right? If one party or the other is negotiating in bad faith, and is not prepared to compromise, then it can't work. The Tories will have to understand that a coalition with the Lib-Dems is not synonymous with Lib-Dem support for an entirely Tory programme. Most politicians know this though, most have worked with politicians from other parties in the past, it's only for show that they take these diametrically opposed stances because the electoral system demands that politicians pretend that they hold no views in common whatsoever. If anything the debates have helped demolish that by showing Cameron agreeing with Both Brown and Clegg. But even if a Tory/Lib-Dem coalition fails, then the question is, do we have another election, or does the Labour party try to form a government with the Lib-Dems? If the Lib-Dems hold the balance of power, and a Tory/Lib-Dem coalition fails, there is no call for a new election, the Labour Party would be within it's rights to try to form a government with the Lib-Dems. Of course it'd be up to the Queen in the end, if Cameron dissolved the coalition and demanded the dissolution of parliament, the Queen could say no (especially very early on in the parliament), and ask the new leader of the Labour Party to try and form a government. This happened in Ireland, right? With their Rainbow Coalition.